Friday, December 30, 2005

"Do you see the fruitless ping-pong play of concept against concept? The only problem is that there are concepts. This conceptualization hides the Truth.
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"To see the Emptiness of concepts is to see their essence, which is Freedom. And in this seeing even the seer disappears."
Karl Renz

"The seer disappears?", you might ask. "I don't want to disappear!", you say.
This is again conceptualization. Seeing requires a seer and what is seen. This is the triad of misperception. But it is all conceptualizing to view this process this way. You Are. You are not this and that. Who you Are never appeared. So how could you disappear? Those are dualistic concepts.
On the other hand, maybe you Are this and that. Again, the Mahavakya:

The world is unreal.
Only the Absolute is Real.
The world is the Absolute.


4 Comments:

Blogger Don Iannone, D.Div., Ph.D. said...

i must read some Karl Renz material at some point.

You keep challenging me with these "i don't exist" concepts. This is tough. It's easier to let go of particular ideas i have about myself, but it's a BIG step to go to the "i don't exist" level. Know what i mean?

But then again, how can you challenge me since you don't exist either? i know. i think you exist and therefore act as though you do.

Of all the Buddhists worldwide, how many do you estimate believe the "i don't exist" concept? Is this group in the majority or minority? Also, who are the top 2 or 3 spiritual teachers (that never existed) who are associated most with this thinking?

Thanks Dan.

2:59 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. i mean, no. Or both. Neither?

No-self is the key component in every Buddhist tradition. How many believe it? The minority, i would think.
In our lifetime, roughly?
Ramana Maharshi
Nisargadatta Maharaj
Dalai Lama

5:14 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Oh, and by the way, since "I exist" and "I don't exist" are both ends of the same (dualistic) concept, who are you prior to this concept?

5:28 PM  
Blogger Don Iannone, D.Div., Ph.D. said...

Dan,

You are always That which comes prior...

Thanks for all your guidance in the past year and I look forward to the next leg of our journey of friendship in 2006.

Love,

don

9:33 AM  

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